> Then you need to talk with those who are porting the themes. KDE3 did not include Plasma, so simple porting would not help here. > In any case, suggestig that the panel should not utilize plasma is ridiculous, the panel _is_ plasma. That's sad. > What would not affect your feel that KDE4 is something like home-made hobby DE like MinuetOS Selection like in Windows, KDE3, Gnome etc. > I did not mean to insult you by suggesting that _you_ > actually put some effort into KDE, which is a community effort. Why should I re-do things which already had been done? Because some vandal came on and broke them? And even if I do, eventually some other vandal will come and again remove the features? It it easy and painless for KDE4 devs to through out artwork made by other.