> >> >> I don't have time to argue over which implementation is better; there >> are >> limitations in what I can do that are out of my control due to the >> Debian >> package format and also the cooperativeness of the distribution >> maintainers. OpenSUSE has always been more supportive of KDE since the >> beginning, however I am doing my best under Ubuntu and Debian within the >> limits that I have. The features that have been added from OpenSUSE are >> not as numerous as those in the Trinity project (yes I did look at the >> patch list), > > I suggest you also look through the list of the packages. We also plan to > expand the list greatly in the coming future. > In my opinion it would have been better for KDE3 as a whole if we could have worked off the same codebase, but it seems that OpenSUSE has always shipped a heavily modified version of KDE. Not all users want those changes, so it is probably better to have the two separate versions. Trinity is the equivalent of the old vanilla KDE, and has pulled in many of the the non-SuSE specific patches from the SuSE RPMs, as well as other sources. SuSE is what it always was, and I can respect that. I politely ask that this list remain focused for discussion about the Trinity project itself, and that other projects that wish to remain completely isolated from Trinity only be brought up on the trinity-devel list in the context of GPL-released patches that can be applied to the Trinity codebase. If you or others would like to discuss OpenSUSE, please do it on their dedicated list(s). Thank you, Timothy Pearson Trinity Desktop Project