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Re: Re[6]: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] What's missing in KDE 4: let's file some bugs

From: Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@...>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:37:44 +0300
> First of all, as already mentioned, it's gigantism. Take for example Plastik theme in KDE3.5 and its much worser version Plastique in KDE4. Even with the same fonts Plastique has larger buttons and menu bars as if they were designed for Chinese ideograms.

Please mention that on this bug, so that the devs will know it:

Be polite, not accusatory! Thanks!

> Next is sharp lines. KDE3.5 was advertised for it's sharp lines compared to Gnome. You can read about it even in the 'about' box. But KDE4 becomes inverse of it. You can also compare Plastique to Plastik to see the sharp lines around the buttons removed.

Could you post the text explaining this? I have never heard about it,
and in fact it may no longer be a goal of KDE. I will ask about that
on the KDE list when I see the 'about' text. Thanks.

> Aside of lyrics.

I do not understand.

> - The panel should use widget style of Qt even if the Qt style does not provide special style for Plasma. So the panel and other windows should always use the same style.

I think that this is what themes are for. If the Qt style does not
provide special style for Plasma then how would you expect it to work?
I am willing to follow up on the idea with you, but I do not
understand the problem. Do you want styles to be more akin to themes?

> - The icons on the desktop should use file manager, so it would be possible to make with desktop icons the same operations as with icons in file manager.

Do you mean that the context menu of the Folder View plasmoid should
be the same as the context menu of the default file manager? That is a
great idea, here, I filed it:

> - Should be possibility to disable all transparent plastic-like effects, for example those appearing when hovering over desktop icons.

It is possible in KDE 4.3.

> - Functionality of file manager shold be restored. For example, it was a surprise for me that there is no the very basic option "open each folder in a new window" in Dolphin. This function exists in KDE3, Nautilus, Windows, MacOS, OpenGEM, Seal, Ozone, CDE etc. In Konqueror this option appears but does not work (as of KDE 4.2).

Please comment:

> - Look of file manager should be restored. Difficult to describe but some of the things is too large distances between icons, annoying pictures apopearing when hovering a mouse over icons,

Those are configurable.

> selection with a bad-looking rectangle like in MinuetOS,

Could you elaborate? What is bad-looking about the rubberband (that's
what the rectangle is called)? Does it affect your work?

> bad looking tree view etc.

Please elaborate, I do not see anything wrong with this.

> - Ability to place on the desktop icons for special places such as Storage devices, Trash, Home, Network etc.

There exists the Device Notifier plasmoid, and the Trash can be shown
in the Folder View plasmoid.

> I would like also port of KDE artwork such as Slick icon theme, Light Qt style etc.

Please do! I am sure that many people would appreciate your effort. Thanks.

> Now I do not use KDE because KDE3 from the semi-official repo caused problems with other packages and is incomplete. I am now considering to switch to another distro with better KDE3 support (such as SuSE of Alt Linux).

I see.

> From technical poit of view I'd like the window manager to provide the option 'sync to vblank' in the same way as Compiz does. Otherwise there is tearing on games and when moving windows. To day as I know only Compiz can do it in proper way.

To tell you the truth, that is a bit out of my field of expertise so I
suggest that you file that feature request yourself. I am sorry I
cannot help with it, but you seem to have enough grip on the subject
to make a good request. Here is the link:

Dotan Cohen