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Re: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet

From: Michael Hirsch <mdhirsch@...>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:58:01 -0600
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:06 PM, B. Buchli <bbuchli@...> wrote:
> Stefan Endrullis wrote:
>> Michael Hirsch schrieb:
>>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Stefan Endrullis <stefan@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Michael Hirsch schrieb:
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Stefan Endrullis <stefan@...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Michael Hirsch schrieb:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Endrullis
>>>>>>> <stefan@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>> Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
>>>>>>>> Did your kwallet worked once?
>>>>>>> I believe it worked until the move from /usr/kde3 to /opt/kde3.  The
>>>>>>> laptop has only ever used the KDE3 PPA archives.  In fact, I
>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>> ubuntu and immediately added the PPA archive as the easiest way to
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> a working KDE 3.5.  Every time I've started with Kubuntu and then
>>>>>>> tried to put KDE 3.5 on it I've had problems.
>>>>>> Hm, I don't know if there are new bugs in the new KDE packages (using
>>>>>> /opt/kde3)
>>>>>> which only occur on systems with 32 bit.
>>>>>> It might well be that you've lost some essential packages during the
>>>>>> last updates
>>>>>> when the PPA was inconsistent.
>>>>>> You could check the following:
>>>>>> - is the DCOP server running? test: install kdcop and start it -> you
>>>>>> should see
>>>>>>  "kwalletmanager" listed in kdcop
>>>>>> - what happens if you rename .kde (or is it .kde3 now?) in your home
>>>>>> directory? can
>>>>>>  you work with kwallet again when KDE is using a new configuration?
>>>>>> That would
>>>>>>  mean that something is wrong with your kwallet file, e.g., file
>>>>>> permissions.
>>>>> dcop is running and shows both kwalletmanager and kopete.  Konqueror
>>>>> can use the wallet for passwords w/o trouble.  But kopete still can't
>>>>> use it.
>>>>> Maybe this weekend I'll get time to try messing with my .kde3 file.
>>>>> This is my work machine so I'll need to be very careful.
>>>> Oh, I didn't know that your kwallet works with other programs. Than it
>>>> wouldn't make
>>>> much sense to rename ~/.kde3, since your KDE configuration seems to be
>>>> OK. What happens
>>>> if you open kwallet and navigate to Kopete->Passwords->{some account}.
>>>> Can you unhide
>>>> the content of the nodes (see the passwords)? If you know all kopete
>>>> passwords, you
>>>> can also remove the "Kopete" node in kwallet and try to enter the
>>>> passwords again via
>>>> kopete.
>>> So I went into my wallet and deleted the kopete folder.  All the
>>> passwords were there but I deleted them anyway.
>>> I get the exact same error when I run kopete.  I complains that it
>>> can't save them securely and offers an insecure save.  I say no to
>>> insecure save and have to enter the passwords.
>> OK, looks like kopete is completely unable to connect to kwallet. But why?
>> I have no idea.
>> Sorry. This should have nothing to do with the new location of kde.
>> Regards,
>> Stefan
> I understand that my suggestion is NOT a fix for your problem, but why do
> you use kopete and not pidgin, for example?  I used to use kopete, but
> pidgin is much more convenient and user friendly, IMO.

Mostly because I like KDE things.  They work well together.  Pidgin
doesn't know how to read my Kaddressbook contents, so there is no
integration with my addressbook.  Pidgin doesn't look like a KDE
program.  Pidgin doesn't use the KDE libraries, so it adds
disproportionately to the memory use by my computer.

I haven't found much that I want from my IM client that Kopete doesn't
supply.  Does Pidgin to video?  I'm not sure.  There is OTR now for
Kopete which is nice, though I admit that the pidgin implementation is
better.  I think Pidgin understands chatrooms better.

In what way do you find pidgin more convenient?